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Post by Admin on Sept 15, 2017 0:27:37 GMT
Tell us about your local Latin Mass community. What's it like there? How is the community life? Tell us about your pastor (s). Its history? Whatever Catholic Info you think would help us know about your Latin Mass community here in the Sooner State of Oklahoma.
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Post by Fortitude on Sept 19, 2017 15:53:55 GMT
St. Michael's Chapel in OKC was originally called St. Athanasius. Here's a link to some history about St. Michael's : www.saintmichaelschapel.com/father-themanns-farewell.html What a struggle they maintained to keep the Mass alive in this diocese, especially in the 70's and 80's, often flying priest and even bishops in on a Sunday to celebrate the Mass of the Ages. Queen of Angels, let by Father Walters, begain in the early 80's as well. You can read more about his story in the book "Mass Where is They Priest, Priest Where is Thy Mass?" Best I can tell, Fr. Jerome Talloen was the first non-independent diocesan priest to begin saying the Mass of the Ages under the auspices of the bishop, first privately and then publicly. Despite repeated requests for permission, Archbishop Salatka denied Fr. Talloen permission to say the Mass of the Ages publicly. Archbishop Beltrain initially denied permission as well. Beltrain's hand was forced by Ecclesia Dei in the early 90's. The small group led by Fr. Talloen became known as St. Anne's Latin Mass Community. Once Father Talloen began saying the Mass publicly, the FSSP (Father Rizzo) was then able to start saying the Mass at St. Michael's chapel, though Fr. Rizzo had been there before while he was still SSPX. The FSSP played some politics with the bishop in the early 2000's, and Beltrain consolidated St. Anne's Latin Mass Community with the FSSP Community (because we all know you can't have more than one!). The Bishop moved the FSSP out to Piedmont/Edmond/Middle of Nowhere in 2010, forming St. Damien's Parish. Some speculate the move had a connection to this lawsuit regarding oil royalties: newsok.com/article/2915123Thanks be to God for sending the SSPX to Oklahoma City in 2010, who keep the Mass alive at St. Michael's and who feed its parishioners with the traditional doctrine. If you haven't visited St. Michael's, please do! Low Mass on Saturdays at 5PM and High Mass on Sundays at 9AM. God bless! |
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Post by Admin on Sept 19, 2017 19:56:25 GMT
St. Michael's Chapel in OKC was originally called St. Athanasius. Here's a link to some history about St. Michael's : www.saintmichaelschapel.com/father-themanns-farewell.html What a struggle they maintained to keep the Mass alive in this diocese, especially in the 70's and 80's, often flying priest and even bishops in on a Sunday to celebrate the Mass of the Ages. Queen of Angels, let by Father Walters, begain in the early 80's as well. You can read more about his story in the book "Mass Where is They Priest, Priest Where is Thy Mass?" Best I can tell, Fr. Jerome Talloen was the first non-independent diocesan priest to begin saying the Mass of the Ages under the auspices of the bishop, first privately and then publicly. Despite repeated requests for permission, Archbishop Salatka denied Fr. Talloen permission to say the Mass of the Ages publicly. Archbishop Beltrain initially denied permission as well. Beltrain's hand was forced by Ecclesia Dei in the early 90's. The small group led by Fr. Talloen became known as St. Anne's Latin Mass Community. Once Father Talloen began saying the Mass publicly, the FSSP (Father Rizzo) was then able to start saying the Mass at St. Michael's chapel, though Fr. Rizzo had been there before while he was still SSPX. The FSSP played some politics with the bishop in the early 2000's, and Beltrain consolidated St. Anne's Latin Mass Community with the FSSP Community (because we all know you can't have more than one!). The Bishop moved the FSSP out to Piedmont/Edmond/Middle of Nowhere in 2010, forming St. Damien's Parish. Some speculate the move had a connection to this lawsuit regarding oil royalties: newsok.com/article/2915123Thanks be to God for sending the SSPX to Oklahoma City in 2010, who keep the Mass alive at St. Michael's and who feed its parishioners with the traditional doctrine. If you haven't visited St. Michael's, please do! Low Mass on Saturdays at 5PM and High Mass on Sundays at 9AM. God bless! Welcome Fortitude! Thank you for that history of St Michael's and the TLM in OKC. Can it be posted on the blog? I myself have attended Mass at St. Michael's when it was FSSP, and later SSPX. I wonder what happened to Fr. Walter's chapel I loved that place. Walking out the front door after Mass and looking out across the lake on the other side of the highway. Also, will there be an All Saints Day Party this year at St Michaels? I used to really enjoy the All Saints Day Parties out at the Milots Please spread the word about the forum and The Okie Traditionalist with friends. |
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2017 5:20:12 GMT
A blog post about Oremus Traditional Catholic Newspaper coming soon!
They're out of OKC, but I hope they can expand to the Tulsa Diocese.
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Post by Fortitude on Sept 25, 2017 2:46:18 GMT
This coming Sunday, October 1st, we will be celebrating the Feast of St. Michael at Saint Michael's in OKC with the annual parish picnic. High Mass at 9AM. We hope our Tulsa friends can make it.
The chapel is now owned by the SSPX, and we are raising funds to purchase the adjacent rectory. We need to show our support for the SSPX and make the case for a priory.
God bless!
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Post by Admin on Sept 25, 2017 5:55:03 GMT
This coming Sunday, October 1st, we will be celebrating the Feast of St. Michael at Saint Michael's in OKC with the annual parish picnic. High Mass at 9AM. We hope our Tulsa friends can make it. The chapel is now owned by the SSPX, and we are raising funds to purchase the adjacent rectory. We need to show our support for the SSPX and make the case for a priory. God bless! Thanks for the invite Fortitude. I agree to support the SSPX and a possible future priory in OKC, but did you know the SSPX decided to end St. John Fisher Chapel in Tulsa? Right now people in Tulsa might be in a little bit of a shock. Some may venture to OKC, I probably would, but right now is a transition period that just started today. A 47 year old community is now formally dissolved, so I could imagine it might be hard for certain Tulsans to make it next Sunday, emotionally if not materially. Catholics have always formed and needed local communities. Just being a part of a chapel on the other side of the state would not preserve the local trad community that has prayed and worshiped together since the new Mass was released. Most in fact would not be able to regularly attend for very practical reasons: material, financial, health, work obligations, etc. etc. In the meantime there are still unanswered questions what just happened. It begs several questions. What will many of the faithful do for the sacraments, pastoral direction, true Catholic teaching? What becomes of the equity and property, that came from the incomes of families over the years? Still a lot to pray about and consider. |
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Post by TulsaPapist on Sept 25, 2017 22:13:18 GMT
I tried to post this to your thread on the blog, so here it goes.
As the admin knows, I am a supporter of the SSPX even though I don't go. I know it may seem like doom and gloom to the SSPX family in Tulsa, but here is something to consider. Most Precious Blood Parish has the Mass, but also has the full parish life. Trads have had the ghetto mentality for so long they think they should be content with just the Mass, if they are lucky once a week, if not less. There is a place in Tulsa, where the Vetus Ordo is celebrated every single day and twice on Sundays and Holy Days. The sacraments are all according to the old rite. There is confession before and durning Mass. The rosary is said before Mass. There is a mother's and children's adoration every month. There is a thriving Men's group. There are monthly pot lucks and pot lucks at major feasts. There is adult and children's education in the faith. There are public processions at the feasts. There is the full Catholic life. To be truly traditional Catholic is to be part of traditional Catholic parish life.
Living Catholic tradition is more than just the Mass, albeit the Mass is primary, the Catholic life is one that is not living in a ghetto. There is more to being Catholic than the smells and bells for 1 hour a week. Being around other local traditional Catholics who can help you build your faith and support you in times of spiritual and temporal need is part of living the Catholic life, for as St. Paul tells us we live in this world, but are not part of this world. This does exist in Tulsa at Most Precious Blood Parish. We are a growing and not shrinking parish with over 200 communicants every Sunday and growing. 14 baptisms just last year with many this year and more coming next year. Tons of supportive home schooling families.
I'm in agreement with Michael Matt, Chris Ferrara, and John Vennari (RIP) that traditional Catholics need to be working together. The infighting has got to stop. Is the FSSP perfect? No! Is the SSPX perfect? No! There is no perfection this side of eternity. Are there valid concerns on both sides? Yes! Could we, in this time of great need and sorrow within Holy Mother Church, band together? Heck yeah! Was I proud to stand side-by-side with my SSPX brothers in Christ when that sick bastard satanist desecrated Our Lady? You bet I was. Was I happy that the FSSP turn out was so small? No. Would we be better together than torn apart? I sure think so. We either hang together or we will hang separately.
With that said, I would invite every single one of you to the parish. Come and experience full parish life. You are all brothers in Christ and are welcome and we would love to have you.
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Post by PerEvangelicaDicta on Oct 1, 2017 4:58:06 GMT
I very much like your comment, TulsaPapist.
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